Comments on: Fullers: why no cask Porter? http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:27:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: jesusjohn http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/#comment-4091 jesusjohn Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:09:33 +0000 http://boakandbailey.com/?p=2659#comment-4091 'So, no one likes Jack Frost then?' No - and I do genuinely rate it as Fuller's worst beer, worse even than Honeydew - but I do feel sorry for it. After all, whenever you see it you think 'but it should be London Porter.' Could any beer bear the comparison? ‘So, no one likes Jack Frost then?’

No – and I do genuinely rate it as Fuller’s worst beer, worse even than Honeydew – but I do feel sorry for it.

After all, whenever you see it you think ‘but it should be London Porter.’

Could any beer bear the comparison?

]]> By: Dubbel http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/#comment-4090 Dubbel Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:49:46 +0000 http://boakandbailey.com/?p=2659#comment-4090 Bailey says: December 15, 2009 at 8:00 pm So, no one likes Jack Frost then? -- Nope. And the keg porter is waaay too cold! Bailey says:
December 15, 2009 at 8:00 pm

So, no one likes Jack Frost then?

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Nope. And the keg porter is waaay too cold!

]]> By: Ed http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/#comment-4089 Ed Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:53:59 +0000 http://boakandbailey.com/?p=2659#comment-4089 If I wanted a bitter and black I'd ask for one! If I wanted a bitter and black I’d ask for one!

]]> By: Bailey http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/#comment-4088 Bailey Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:00:02 +0000 http://boakandbailey.com/?p=2659#comment-4088 Blimey. We touched a nerve. Hello everyone. We should probably drop John Keeling a line and ask him directly. We've been blogging for several years now and never emailed or met him, unlike everyone else, it seems! Our local Fuller's pub (the Plough in Walthamstow, for which I have a soft spot, but can't wholeheartedly recommend) had LP well into January last year which, as per Jeff's point, suggests no bugger was buying it, so they probably haven't bothered ordering any this year. I would guess a few others have got the keg and don't see the point of having the cask as well. So, no one likes Jack Frost then? Blimey. We touched a nerve. Hello everyone.

We should probably drop John Keeling a line and ask him directly. We’ve been blogging for several years now and never emailed or met him, unlike everyone else, it seems!

Our local Fuller’s pub (the Plough in Walthamstow, for which I have a soft spot, but can’t wholeheartedly recommend) had LP well into January last year which, as per Jeff’s point, suggests no bugger was buying it, so they probably haven’t bothered ordering any this year. I would guess a few others have got the keg and don’t see the point of having the cask as well.

So, no one likes Jack Frost then?

]]> By: atj http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/#comment-4087 atj Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:37:33 +0000 http://boakandbailey.com/?p=2659#comment-4087 I must say I enjoy the keg version more, don’t know why, maybe I had a tied cask version — what about the Doric Arch, don’t they have it (on keg though)? I must say I enjoy the keg version more, don’t know why, maybe I had a tied cask version — what about the Doric Arch, don’t they have it (on keg though)?

]]> By: Ant http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/#comment-4086 Ant Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:16:29 +0000 http://boakandbailey.com/?p=2659#comment-4086 PS - Jack Frost is mediocre at best, but I must say I really enjoyed Gales Winter Brew the other week. PS – Jack Frost is mediocre at best, but I must say I really enjoyed Gales Winter Brew the other week.

]]> By: Ant http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/#comment-4085 Ant Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:15:52 +0000 http://boakandbailey.com/?p=2659#comment-4085 Ooh, Fuller's lorry was making a delivery as I left home this morning. Fingers crossed! Ooh, Fuller’s lorry was making a delivery as I left home this morning. Fingers crossed!

]]> By: jesusjohn http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/#comment-4084 jesusjohn Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:23:49 +0000 http://boakandbailey.com/?p=2659#comment-4084 As you two probably know, I've already moaned about the distinct lack of cask LP this year. Last year it seemed to be out and about (albeit in its usual, mind-splittingly short window), quickly replaced by the - sorry, John, if you get to reading this - BLOODY AWFUL Jack Frost. This year it has been notable by its absence. If pubs have to ask for it, are they not doing so? Did they ask more last year? Seemed to sell very well where I saw it. As one of the finest cask beers in the country it's a mighty shame they haven't got out and sold it. It's a perfect winter warmer and is 'on trend', as it were, with the porter/stout revival (cf. Humpty Dumpty's excellent Porter, Ascot's bitter Anastasia Exile Stout, etc.) As you two probably know, I’ve already moaned about the distinct lack of cask LP this year. Last year it seemed to be out and about (albeit in its usual, mind-splittingly short window), quickly replaced by the – sorry, John, if you get to reading this – BLOODY AWFUL Jack Frost. This year it has been notable by its absence.

If pubs have to ask for it, are they not doing so? Did they ask more last year? Seemed to sell very well where I saw it.

As one of the finest cask beers in the country it’s a mighty shame they haven’t got out and sold it. It’s a perfect winter warmer and is ‘on trend’, as it were, with the porter/stout revival (cf. Humpty Dumpty’s excellent Porter, Ascot’s bitter Anastasia Exile Stout, etc.)

]]> By: Jeff http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/#comment-4083 Jeff Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:18:08 +0000 http://boakandbailey.com/?p=2659#comment-4083 PS. A pub that's still selling a previous seasonal in place of one you're expecting to do obviously just over ordered the first one and need to work through that before putting on a new beer. PS. A pub that’s still selling a previous seasonal in place of one you’re expecting to do obviously just over ordered the first one and need to work through that before putting on a new beer.

]]> By: Jeff http://boakandbailey.com/2009/12/14/fullers-why-no-cask-porter/#comment-4082 Jeff Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:17:14 +0000 http://boakandbailey.com/?p=2659#comment-4082 In answer to a question above, Shepherd Neame are <i>not</i> releasing Original Porter this year. They've got a new seasonal, I think. Cask London Porter appears to be far superior to the keg version they've been selling in some of their tied houses lately, but I suspect the massive gap in quality may be because pubs aren't dealing with the keg version properly. It's often poured almost completely flat. I don't know the details of the dispense system - combination of gas they're using and how the staff are told to pour it - but it's all wrong. In answer to a question above, Shepherd Neame are not releasing Original Porter this year. They’ve got a new seasonal, I think.

Cask London Porter appears to be far superior to the keg version they’ve been selling in some of their tied houses lately, but I suspect the massive gap in quality may be because pubs aren’t dealing with the keg version properly. It’s often poured almost completely flat. I don’t know the details of the dispense system – combination of gas they’re using and how the staff are told to pour it – but it’s all wrong.

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