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		<title>Depends, how much did it cost?</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2012/02/01/depends-how-much-did-it-cost/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week, this Tweet got us thinking: @HardKnottDave @GhostDrinker so sam smith ain&#8217;t craft? &#8216;cos it&#8217;s cheap? — Carpe Zytha (@CarpeZytha) January 25, 2012 Well, in a way, the answer is yes, but bear with us. How do you reduce the price of beer when you&#8217;ve got a price point to reach? You reduce the [...]]]></description>
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<p>Last week, this Tweet got us thinking:</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="162184829415333888"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/HardKnottDave">HardKnottDave</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/GhostDrinker">GhostDrinker</a> so sam smith ain&#8217;t craft? &#8216;cos it&#8217;s cheap?</p>
<p>— Carpe Zytha (@CarpeZytha) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarpeZytha/status/162188903221178368" data-datetime="2012-01-25T15:03:42+00:00">January 25, 2012</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Well, in a way, the answer is yes, but bear with us.</p>
<p>How do you reduce the price of beer when you&#8217;ve got a price point to reach? You reduce the cost of production, storage and distribution by</p>
<ul>
<li>producing in greater volumes</li>
<li>using fewer and/or cheaper ingredients (e.g. hops)</li>
<li>conditioning/<a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2011/11/01/to-those-who-wait/">lagering</a> for shorter times (<a href="http://tandlemanbeerblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/miscellaneous.html">see Tandleman on this here</a>)</li>
<li>brewing your beer to be <em>acceptable</em> to the widest possible market.</li>
</ul>
<p>It&#8217;s still possible to brew a good beer within those parameters and, in fact, we&#8217;ve had the odd pint of Sam Smith&#8217;s Old Brewery Bitter which rivals Harvey&#8217;s Sussex Best for complexity and <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2010/02/11/a-certain-i-dont-know-what/">zing</a>. On the whole, however, the more corners are cut, the more industrialised the process, the less <em>likely</em> the beer is <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2012/01/07/dont-tell-us-whats-funny/">to excite anyone</a>. Everyone got that <em>likely</em>, right?</p>
<p>While it would be wrong to answer the question &#8220;Is this a craft beer?&#8221; with &#8220;Depends, how much did it cost?&#8221;, it wouldn&#8217;t be reckless to bet that a pint that costs £1.30 will <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2011/08/30/eight-alternatives-to-boring-beer/">be a bit boring</a>. It might still be satisfying, it might not be nasty, but it probably won&#8217;t be exciting.</p>
<p><em>Note: we&#8217;re not making the case for <a href="http://beerblog.genx40.com/archive/2012/january/whatisthevalue#comments">super-expensive beer</a>; our beer of the year for 2011 costs £2.60 a pint. And the Sam Smith&#8217;s beer pictured above is anything but cheap&#8230;</em></p>
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		<title>The balance of power</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2012/01/11/the-balance-of-power/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s not necessarily the case that people hate big, successful breweries; just that they cut new, small breweries a lot of slack. It&#8217;s hard not to get excited when new breweries open, reading  breathless tweets announcing the arrival of kettles and fermenters, or the success of test batches. We&#8217;re illogical, emotional creatures and can&#8217;t help [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_4011" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 450px"><a href="http://boakandbailey.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/koelsch_cutlery.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-4011" title="koelsch_cutlery" src="http://boakandbailey.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/koelsch_cutlery.jpg" alt="" width="440" height="233" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">An only semi-relevant picture of some delicious, delicious Kölsch.</p></div>
<p>It&#8217;s not necessarily the case that people hate big, successful breweries; just that they cut new, small breweries a lot of slack.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard not to get excited when new breweries open, reading  breathless tweets announcing <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/TheUnionBrewery/status/156196577134903296/photo/1">the arrival of kettles</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/HarbourBrewing/status/154268378616442880">and fermenters</a>, or the success of test batches. We&#8217;re illogical, emotional creatures and can&#8217;t help feeling a sentimental warmth towards the underdogs.</p>
<p>Sometimes, though, things are bit rocky to start with. As craft beer consumers, do we have a &#8216;duty&#8217; to turn a blind eye to exploding bottles and off-flavours? No, but we don&#8217;t mind doing so for a  while because, in most cases, we understand how hard it is. We <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2011/11/24/at-the-end-of-the-learning-curve/">want them to succeed</a> and enjoy being along for the ride.</p>
<p>When a brewery gets established, achieving regional, national or even international distribution, we start to feel less sentimental. They&#8217;re big boys now and ought to be able to take a bit of constructive public criticism. It&#8217;s probably at this point, too, that we stop repeatedly trying their beers hoping to find a good one. Frankly, there are too many good beers out there for us to waste our hard-earned cash on those that have already burned us, and drinking every beer twice is hard work when there are more than 4000<sup>**</sup> of them in the UK. We&#8217;ve done our bit, now we want them to do theirs. (As Pivni Filosof put it rather bluntly, &#8220;<a href="http://www.pivni-filosof.com/2011/12/wishlist-for-2012.html">get your shit together or close down</a>&#8220;.)</p>
<p>When a brewery gets really big &#8212; i.e. monolothic and powerful &#8212; the gloves are off. It&#8217;s not personal, it&#8217;s just that they&#8217;re no longer juveniles, and are subject to the law of the land like any other grown-up. We, the consumers, become the underdogs, the little guys in this relationship, and can surely no longer be expected to make any allowances for bad recipes or quality control problems.</p>
<p><em><a href="http://beerblog.genx40.com/archive/2012/january/timeforanew">Coincidentally, Alan at A Good Beer Blog has just posted on a related subject</a>. Great minds, &amp;c..<br />
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<p>** <em>Estimated figure based on 900+ breweries in the UK each brewing 3-5 beers.</em></p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t tell us what&#8217;s funny</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2012/01/07/dont-tell-us-whats-funny/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been thinking quite a bit recently about the subjectivity of taste and continued  the discussion last night over our Friday night beers. Have you ever had a conversation about comedy where someone has tried to tell that something you like &#8216;isn&#8217;t funny&#8217;? We&#8217;ve always found this infuriating. If you laugh from your belly at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2011/11/28/we-will-never-taste-what-you-taste/">We&#8217;ve been thinking quite a bit recently about the subjectivity of taste</a> and continued  the discussion last night over our Friday night beers.</p>
<p>Have you ever had a conversation about comedy where someone has tried to tell that something you like &#8216;isn&#8217;t funny&#8217;? We&#8217;ve always found this infuriating. If you laugh from your belly at an act, TV show or film, then that means it&#8217;s funny, full stop.</p>
<p>It might not be fashionable, and people might argue that it&#8217;s not clever, or well-made, or make any one of a number of other critical observations, but what they can&#8217;t say is that it&#8217;s <em>not funny</em>.</p>
<p>And, with beer, the equivalent non-negotiable reaction is probably <em>excitement</em>. If you find something exciting, that&#8217;s something no-one can argue you out of. They might question your standards &#8212; &#8220;You found <em>that</em> exciting? Really? Then you need to try&#8230;&#8221; &#8212; or note that the beer you&#8217;re buzzing about is exciting despite its flaws, but they can&#8217;t deny the thrill you felt on putting your nose into the glass and the stuff itself into your gob.</p>
<p><em>Check out <a href="http://thebeerboy.blogspot.com/2011/09/now-drinking-roosters-baby-faced.html">Zak&#8217;s reaction to Rooster&#8217;s Babyfaced Assassin at 5:34 into the video here</a>. You can&#8217;t argue with that, even if you think the beer is pretentious, elitist, overblown, etc..</em></p>
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		<title>What wedge?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2012 10:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The smoking ban is the thin end of the wedge: they&#8217;ll ban beer, hamburgers and sex next, now the foot is in the door. Craft beer bars are the thin end of the wedge: soon, we&#8217;ll all either be drinking tinnies at home or paying £12 a pint for kegged IPA in chrome-plated palaces. Liking [...]]]></description>
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<ul>
<li>The smoking ban is the thin end of the wedge: they&#8217;ll ban beer, hamburgers and sex next, now the foot is in the door.</li>
<li>Craft beer bars are the thin end of the wedge: soon, we&#8217;ll all either be drinking tinnies at home or paying £12 a pint for kegged IPA in chrome-plated palaces.</li>
<li>Liking the occasional Brewdog beer is the thin end of the wedge: if you admit to that, you&#8217;re buying wholesale into their awful marketing gimmicks and supporting their diabolical plans for world domination.</li>
<li>Acknowledging that some keg beer can be pretty good is the thin end of the wedge: it can only lead to the total disappearance of cask ale from the UK.</li>
<li>Suggesting that one beer is better than the other is the thin end of the wedge: the next step is riding around in limos swigging from diamond-encrusted bottles of US IPA, whipping peasants and laughing at them as they drink their foul swill.</li>
<li>Going outside is the thin end of the wedge: it can only lead to getting mugged or murdered. Best stay indoors.</li>
</ul>
<p>We&#8217;re not at all convinced there is a wedge and we don&#8217;t want to waste our time fretting at every change or development.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we just see how things play out and, while we&#8217;re employing cliches, cross some of those bridges when we come to them?</p>
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		<title>Beware snobbery but not afraid of change</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2011/12/03/beware-snobbery-but-not-afraid-of-change/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s a fine line between enthusing about better beer and being a snob. It&#8217;s something that&#8217;s been on Tandleman&#8217;s mind lately. Pivni Filosof, Velky Al and numerous others over the years have posted variations on the point that, for many of us, beer&#8217;s appeal is, in large part, that it&#8217;s not pretentious, expensive or exclusive. [...]]]></description>
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<p>There&#8217;s a fine line between <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2008/04/09/beervangelism/">enthusing about better beer</a> and being a snob.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s something that&#8217;s <a href="http://tandlemanbeerblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/to-swig-or-not-swig-that-is-question.html">been on Tandleman&#8217;s mind lately</a>. <a href="http://www.pivni-filosof.com/">Pivni Filosof</a>, <a href="http://www.fuggled.net/">Velky Al</a> and numerous others over the years have posted variations on the point that, for many of us, beer&#8217;s appeal is, in large part, that it&#8217;s not pretentious, expensive or exclusive.</p>
<p><a href="http://goodfoodgoodbeer.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/the-session-the-best-day-of-the-year/">Even some posts for Session #58</a>, <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2011/12/02/session-58-a-christmas-carol/">including our own</a>, reflected the same anxiety.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s certainly something that&#8217;s worth being vigilant about. &#8220;<a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2008/04/16/i-think-youll-find/">Am I being a dick about this?</a>&#8221; is probably a good question to ask yourself from time to time.</p>
<p>Having said that, we mustn&#8217;t let this thoughtfulness lead us to the false conclusion that, to be true to the roots of beer, we need to embrace shite pubs and crappy products. After all, eating greasy, grey meat pies might be &#8216;traditionally working class&#8217;, but they just don&#8217;t taste nice, and surely it&#8217;s a good thing that lots of ordinary people are now enjoying more interesting, tastier food and that the good stuff isn&#8217;t just reserved for the nobs? (In fact, is this the opposite of snobbery&#8230;?)</p>
<p>The &#8220;craft beer revolution&#8221; is real &#8212; <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2011/09/15/londons-brilliant-parade/">you only have to look at London to know it</a> &#8212; but, <a href="http://tandlemanbeerblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/to-swig-or-not-swig-that-is-question.html?showComment=1322759494757#c6732756481595736526">even if your town isn&#8217;t directly touched by it</a> (<a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2007/12/27/small-town-blues/">Bridgwater</a> is probably never going to have a <a href="http://thecraftbeerco.com/">stripped pine and chrome, forty tap craft beer bar, for example</a>) the very fact that the idea that the idea of good beer is being talked about (<a href="http://blogs.independent.co.uk/author/willhawkes/">in newspapers</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_and_James_Drink_to_Britain">on TV</a>) will eventually reach every corner of the market, even if only in a modest way.</p>
<p><strong>Six degrees of beer appreciation</strong></p>
<p><em>1. Snobbery</em>. Making a big deal about buying beer because it is expensive or exclusive. No friends.<em></em></p>
<p><em>2. Fussy</em>. Offending people and/or causing social awkwardness in the pursuit of good beer.<br />
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<p><em>3. Discerning</em>. Drinking the best beer available for the occasion. (A fine line between this and the above.)</p>
<p><em>4. Interested</em>. Being aware of the idea that there is good and bad beer and trying to choose the former. Can lead to accidental snobbery.<br />
<em></em></p>
<p><em>5. <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Disinterested</span> Uninterested</em>. Not interested in beer at all. Missing out.</p>
<p><em>6. Oblivious</em>. What do you mean &#8220;good beer&#8221;? All beer is good! Wa-hey! Happiness.<em></em></p>
<p><em>7. Inverse snobbery</em>. Drinking bad beer because to do otherwise would be pretentious. Misery.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Note:</strong> if you&#8217;ve posted on this subject &#8212; lots of people have &#8212; let us know and we&#8217;ll add a link.</p>
<p><a href="http://pavementandbeerforpeace.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/why-we-hate-geeks-nerds-and-snobs/">Zac at Pavement and Beer for Peace</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.seanliquorish.co.uk/blog/?p=664">Sean Liquorish wants bland mainstream lagers to be tastier</a>.</p>
<p>Pivni Filosof has touched on this subject <a href="http://www.pivni-filosof.com/2010/06/in-praise-of-simplicity.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://www.pivni-filosof.com/2011/04/cultural-question.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.pivni-filosof.com/2011/05/more-culture.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>The Pub Curmudgeon reckons the &#8216;craft beer revolution&#8217; is an <a href="http://pubcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2011/12/beer-bubble.html">exclusive bubble disconnected from most people&#8217;s experience of beer.</a></p>
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		<title>Smutty pumpclips: no thanks</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2011/11/17/smutty-pumpclips-no-thanks/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We wrote this for the head-to-head feature in the most recent issue of CAMRA&#8217;s BEER magazine. You can read Simon &#8220;Reluctant Scooper&#8221; Johnson&#8217;s argument in favour of &#8220;Ginger Tosser&#8221; et al over at his blog. This is the unedited text we sent them with never-seen-before deleted scenes and bloopers a few extra sentences. If this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>We wrote this for the head-to-head feature in the most recent issue of CAMRA&#8217;s BEER magazine. You can read <a href="http://www.reluctantscooper.co.uk/2011/11/pumpclips-smut-or-smart.html">Simon &#8220;Reluctant Scooper&#8221; Johnson&#8217;s argument in favour of &#8220;Ginger Tosser&#8221; et al over at his blog</a>. This is the unedited text we sent them with <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">never-seen-before deleted scenes and bloopers</span> a few extra sentences. If this kind of dynamite material doesn&#8217;t convince you to join CAMRA just to get the magazine, nothing will&#8230;<br />
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<p>Smutty pumpclips with badly-rendered &#8216;busty wenches&#8217; and willy-waving vicars do nobody any favours. They don&#8217;t sell beer. They rarely, if ever, make anyone laugh. And, perhaps worst of all, they give the knockers another stick with which to beat beer and those who drink it.</p>
<p>Wine producers don&#8217;t market their lovingly crafted, artisanal products this way because they know they deserve to be taken seriously. Nor, for that matter, do German breweries, of any size. Perhaps British ale brewers are naturally self-deprecating?</p>
<p>Smutty pumpclip apologists will say that it is po-faced and middle-class to complain about them (as if the middle-classes have a monopoly on good taste). They will also argue that a &#8216;wacky&#8217; pumpclip <em>does</em> sell beer. They argue that it grabs attention at the point of sale and so, for minimal outlay, helps the little man stand-up to the giant marketing budgets of the bigger breweries. Yes, the occasional pint of a rudely named beer might sell on novelty value, but that won&#8217;t win longer term converts. People watched the Carry On films, for a while, but they didn&#8217;t save the British film industry.</p>
<p>The long-term survival of good beer, and especially cask ale, depends on it being accepted as a mainstream product for men and women with discerning taste (like free range meat or good cheese) rather than a niche product for a small number of punning oddballs.</p>
<p>Think about Thornbridge&#8217;s pumps and their success in competing for attention on the pub bar. Their simple, colourful, contemporary design stands out from the competition without being the graphic equivalent of Colin Hunt, the attention-seeking office joker from The Fast Show. It doesn&#8217;t offend or embarrass anyone and, importantly, appeals to people who might not normally consider drinking ale.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re going to put more words into the mouths of those imaginary critics: &#8220;This is superficial nonsense! It doesn&#8217;t matter what the pumpclip looks like, or what the beer is called, only how it tastes.&#8221; But it does matter. Even before we&#8217;ve tasted a pint, the way it looks in the glass, its name, provenance and, yes, the image on the pumpclip, are stimulating the pleasure centres of our brains. They say you eat with your eyes and we think the same is true of drinking beer.</p>
<p>Or not. One particular turn off for us is when beers have names that refer to urine. Seriously, who wants to be thinking about wee when they lift that glass to their lips?</p>
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		<title>Pop Culture and Beer</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2011/11/14/pop-culture-and-beer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are just a couple of thoughts prompted by reactions to our last post. 1. You can&#8217;t write a set of rules for &#8220;cool&#8221;. Trying to define &#8220;good beer&#8221; or &#8220;craft beer&#8221;* in a form as definite as the CAMRA conception of &#8220;real ale&#8221; is impossible. Defining &#8220;indie&#8221; is pretty tough, too, but you know [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_3871" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 450px"><a href="http://boakandbailey.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/abbahallo.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-3871" title="abbahallo" src="http://boakandbailey.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/abbahallo.jpg" alt="Boat with ABBA hallo written on the side" width="440" height="206" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">That weird boat in Lübeck with ABBA hallo written on it for no obvious reason.</p></div>
<p>These are just a couple of thoughts prompted by reactions to <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2011/11/11/ten-signs-of-a-craft-brewery/">our last post</a>.</p>
<p>1. You can&#8217;t write a set of rules for &#8220;cool&#8221;. Trying to define &#8220;good beer&#8221; or &#8220;craft beer&#8221;<sup><a href="#footnote1">*</a></sup> in a form as definite as <a href="http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=181061">the CAMRA conception of &#8220;real ale&#8221;</a> is impossible. <a href="http://pavementandbeerforpeace.wordpress.com/2011/11/12/ten-signs-of-an-indie-rock-label/">Defining &#8220;indie&#8221; is pretty tough, too,</a> but <a href="http://appellationbeer.com/blog/one-sign-of-a-craft-brewery/">you know it when you see it</a>.</p>
<p>2. People have often have very different taste in music or films when they&#8217;re just finding their way than they do later in life. They might start with the pretentious stuff and get over themselves; or they might prefer brash, loud and attention-grabbing, but begin to appreciate something more thoughtful as they mature. Our respective dads thought our respective tastes in music were terrible, but they were just glad we liked music <strong>at all</strong>.<sup><a href="#footnote2">#</a></sup> If people just starting out on beer happen to get all excited about Guinness, or crazily hoppy American IPAs, we should be encouraging them, not sneering.</p>
<p><strong><em>Footnotes</em></strong></p>
<p><em id="footnote1">*. Actually, we&#8217;re not going to footnote &#8216;craft beer&#8217; every time we use it. We&#8217;re going to link to <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/when-we-say-craft-beer-we-mean/">this new permanent page</a>.</em></p>
<p><em id="footnote2">#. That sentence is a perfect example of what a pain in arse this &#8220;two bloggers with one voice&#8221; thing can be. That&#8217;s the last time we&#8217;ll mention our respective dads&#8230;</em></p>
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		<title>Ten signs of a craft brewery</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We were pondering the hard-to-define, much-loathed term &#8220;craft beer&#8221; again this morning and decided that, rather than a firm definition, it makes much more sense to think about indicators or signs. The following list, off the top of our head, is not exhaustive and, clearly, we&#8217;re not suggesting that any brewery needs to be able [...]]]></description>
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<p>We were pondering the hard-to-define, much-loathed term &#8220;craft beer&#8221; again this morning and decided that, rather than a firm definition, it makes much more sense to think about indicators or signs.</p>
<p>The following list, off the top of our head, is not exhaustive and, clearly, we&#8217;re not suggesting that any brewery needs to be able to tick all ten to be considered to be making craft beer. Equally, some of these apply to breweries that, instinctively, we wouldn&#8217;t consider craft brewers.</p>
<p>So, this is just more food for thought, really.</p>
<p>1. <strong>They use malts like Maris Otter or even <a href="http://www.fullers.co.uk/rte.asp?id=377">Plumage Archer</a></strong> because they want a particular flavour in their beer, rather than higher-yielding, cheaper varieties. This fact is mentioned on the packaging or on the website.</p>
<p>2. <strong>They might well produce single-hop beers or beers which prominently feature specific hops.</strong> Their choice of hops is driven by something other than the market. It is possible/easy to find out which varieties are used.</p>
<p>3. <strong>It is easy to find out where the beer is made</strong> &#8212; ideally because it is mentioned on the packaging. <strong>It does not pretend to be from somewhere else</strong>. (I.e. Belgium, Denmark, Newcastle.)</p>
<p>4. <strong>The brewers have their names and/or faces on the website or packaging.</strong> There are identifiable individuals making the beer. They might even be contactable on Twitter or through their own blogs.</p>
<p>5. <strong>They lager or age beer for extended periods even though it&#8217;s expensive to do so.</strong></p>
<p>6. <strong>Their beers have vintages and change from year to year</strong>: they are not entirely focused on consistency.</p>
<p>7. There are signs of <strong>innovation led by the brewers</strong> rather than marketers or management.</p>
<p>8. <strong>The brewers <span style="text-decoration: underline;">are</span> the management.</strong></p>
<p>9. <strong>They make beer that makes you say &#8220;wow&#8221;, not &#8220;meh&#8221;.</strong> (<a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2011/08/30/eight-alternatives-to-boring-beer/">A beer can be 3.8% abv, brown and hopped with Goldings and still make you go &#8220;wow&#8221;, by the way.</a>)</p>
<p>10. <strong>They make a dark beer:</strong> they haven&#8217;t ceded this ground to Guinness.</p>
<p>Any others?</p>
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		<title>The secret language of customer reviews</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2011/11/02/the-secret-language-of-customer-reviews/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The subject of review websites like TripAdvisor, Beerintheevening, RateBeer, etc., is a very emotive one. They can make business people who are struggling to make ends meet, and sincerely believe in their products or services, feel under attack and powerless. But we honestly don&#8217;t think they shouldn&#8217;t worry so much and that they should credit [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The subject of review websites like TripAdvisor, Beerintheevening, RateBeer, etc., is a very emotive one. They can make business people who are struggling to make ends meet, and sincerely believe in their products or services, feel under attack and powerless.</p>
<p>But we honestly don&#8217;t think they should<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">n&#8217;t</span> worry so much and that they should credit us, the consumers, with some intelligence in the way we use customer reviews.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re good at spotting rogue reviews &#8212; those totally at odds with those around them, either very negative or wildly (even implausibly) positive. We want to know what the majority of people using the service thought of it. We know there are cranks out there and can usually spot reviews written by the owner of the pub next door. (&#8220;Not as nice as the nearby Dog and Duck, which has a two-for-one carvery offer this weekend, by the way.&#8221;)</p>
<p>When a bad review gets a sensible, sincere public response, we consider it cancelled out.</p>
<p>We never look at a score and make a decision based solely on that. The content of reviews is the most important part: &#8220;This pub is terrible. It has no Foster&#8217;s, only loads of weird Belgian beer. 3/10.&#8221;</p>
<p>Having said all of that, if you run a business (a pub, a brewery, whatever) and you <em>consistently</em> get lower scores and worse reviews from ordinary punters than you feel you deserve, then maybe it&#8217;s time to stop blaming the system and take a long hard look at what you are doing.</p>
<p>Just because some customers are arseholes it doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re not right.</p>
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		<title>London&#8217;s Brilliant Parade</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2011/09/15/londons-brilliant-parade/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When visitors to the UK ask us where to go in London for a pint, our default answer for a while has been &#8220;Manchester, York, Leeds, Sheffield&#8230;&#8221; but things are looking up and we think the time has come for us to put that advice to bed. London is no longer a beer desert. More [...]]]></description>
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<p>When visitors to the UK ask us where to go in London for a pint, our default answer for a while has been &#8220;Manchester, York, Leeds, Sheffield&#8230;&#8221; but things are looking up and we think the time has come for us to put that advice to bed. London is no longer a beer desert.</p>
<p><strong>More Breweries</strong></p>
<p>Back in 2007, around the time this blog started, we were chatting over a pint (as per) and bemoaning the lack of breweries in London. Back then, Young&#8217;s having just evacuated the city, there were only two: <a href="http://www.fullers.co.uk/">Fuller&#8217;s</a> and <a href="http://www.meantimebrewing.com/">Meantime</a>.</p>
<p>As of today, <a href="http://desdemoor.co.uk/london/">Des de Moor reckons there are 14, with another 11 opening in the next year or so</a>.</p>
<p><strong>More beer geek pubs and bars</strong></p>
<p>When <a href="http://www.individualpubs.co.uk/pembury/">The Pembury Tavern</a> reopened in Hackney in 2006, a short train or bus ride from Walthamstow, we were ecstatic. It had multiple guest ales and a range of bottled beer from Belgium and Germany &#8212; what a find!</p>
<p>Now, although we still have a soft spot for the old place, it&#8217;s been overtaken, as places like <a href="http://www.utobeer.co.uk/home.html">the Rake</a>, <a href="http://www.caskpubandkitchen.com/">Cask</a>, <a href="http://www.thecraftbeerco.com/">The Craft Beer Company</a>, <a href="http://www.eustontap.com/">the Euston Tap</a>, <a href="http://www.masonandtaylor.co.uk/">Mason and Taylor</a> and <a href="http://www.londonsla.org/tap-east-pub-stratford-city/">Tap East</a> open at a rate we can&#8217;t keep up with on our rare visits from Cornwall to the big city.</p>
<p><strong>Good beer in ordinary local pubs</strong></p>
<p>In 2006, <a href="http://www.thenagsheade17.com/">our local in Walthamstow, the Nags Head</a>, had (as far as we can recall) two cask ales which were not always in good condition. Even so, it was the best pub around by far.</p>
<p>On our most recent visit, a couple of weeks ago, the number of pumps had reached six, all in perfect condition, and Chimay had popped up in the fridge. This is an average pub, not a beer geek destination. And, what&#8217;s more, within a ten minute walk, there are now several other pubs offering a decent selection of interesting beer &#8212; namely <a href="http://www.roseandcrowntheatrepub.webeden.co.uk/">the Rose and Crown on Hoe Street</a> and the <a href="http://www.brodiesbeers.co.uk/">William IV in Leyton</a>.</p>
<p>Pubs with thoughtful landlords and decent beer are beginning to become almost commonplace. The best ones seem to be thriving, too, despite the economy.</p>
<p><strong>Appreciation of London&#8217;s brewing heritage</strong></p>
<p>In 2006, Meantime (with dodgy IPA and porter histories for reference) were ploughing a lonely furrow in honouring London&#8217;s brewing tradition with attempts at historical recipes. <a href="http://www.pitfieldbeershop.co.uk/pitbeers.htm">Yes, Pitfield were doing something similar, but reclusively</a>.</p>
<p>Now, Fuller&#8217;s are brewing an excellent IPA; a fantastic porter; and rummaging in their archives for old recipes to bring back to life. <a href="http://www.trumansbeer.co.uk/">The ubiquitous Truman&#8217;s brand has been revived</a> (we&#8217;ll see how that works out). <strong></strong>And, finally, from Bedfordshire comes <a href="http://edsbeer.blogspot.com/2011/09/brewing-history-in-london.html">the news that Courage Imperial Stout is also to reappear on our shelves</a>. <strong>UPDATE: </strong>and Kernel, of course, <a href="http://thekernelbrewery.com/tastingnotes.html">whose range of historically inspired brews</a> <a href="http://beer.bobarnott.com/2011/09/15/imperial-brown-stout-london-1856/">is wowing the blogoshire</a>.</p>
<p><strong>So, things are looking up for London.</strong></p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> <a href="http://www.reluctantscooper.co.uk/2011/09/review-camra-guide-to-londons-best-beer.html">and here&#8217;s the Relucant Scooper making more-or-less the same points, better and earlier</a>, in a review of <a href="https://shop.camra.org.uk/product.php?id_product=121">Des de Moor&#8217;s book</a>.</p>
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