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		<title>Second honeymoon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 09:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[IPA was one of our first loves. As many people just getting into beer seem to find, the bold, obvious hop flavour and aroma provided an entrance point and, in the most visceral way, excited us. In the Great Beer Guide by Michael Jackson (our Bible back then) it was always the IPAs which looked [...]]]></description>
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<p>IPA was one of our first loves. As many people just getting into beer seem to find, the bold, obvious hop flavour and aroma provided an entrance point and, in the most visceral way, excited us. In <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Beer-Guide-Worlds-Beers/dp/0751308137">the Great Beer Guide by Michael Jackson</a> (our Bible back then) it was always the IPAs which looked most alluring &#8212; pictured in stemmed glasses, pale at the bottom, glowing amber at the top, the aroma almost lifting off the page. The fact that they played hard to get didn&#8217;t hurt, either: finding a strong hoppy IPA in London in 2007 involved research and usually one or more changes of public transport.</p>
<p>In the last year or two, however, we&#8217;ve drifted away from this style, partly because (at its worst) IPA can be a one-trick pony, and partly because the novelty wore off. (<a href="http://www.beerbirrabier.com/2011/05/colin-valentine-on-beer-bloggers.html">Colin Valentine was right</a> &#8212; once they were everywhere, we got bored and moved on.)</p>
<p>This Christmas, however, we had the opportunity to stop thinking too hard and <em>just enjoy</em> several now easy-to-find IPAs.</p>
<p><strong>St Austell Proper Job (5.5%, bottle)<br />
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<p>Back in November, visiting Bridgwater, we were tipped off that <a href="http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/">Mole Valley Farmers</a> were selling off out-of-date stock of Proper Job and Admiral&#8217;s Ale. We bought everything they had at 60p a bottle, knowing that, being bottle-conditioned, it was unlikely to have &#8216;gone off&#8217;. Sure enough, what we actually got in the Proper Job was a beautifully mellowed, rounded, aged IPA, without the slightly astringent hoppiness and thinnish body of the fresh cask version. Always a great beer, but one that doesn&#8217;t mind a bit of time to mature, it turns out.</p>
<p><strong>Fuller&#8217;s Bengal Lancer (5.3%, bottle)<br />
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<p>Is this getting better? The early batches were delicious but, here and there, had a hint of stewed tea about them. The bottles we drank over Christmas not only resembled cask ale more closely than any other bottled beer we&#8217;ve tried (<a href="http://twitter.com/#!/FullersJohn/status/154127664402268160">skillful use of the microscope?</a>) but also seemed brighter, cleaner and somehow less&#8230; English. Worth having in by the case, if you&#8217;re that way inclined.</p>
<p><strong>Sainsbury&#8217;s Taste the Difference IPA (Marston&#8217;s) (5.9%, bottle)</strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>This was the real surprise. We picked it up as an emergency backup &#8212; you don&#8217;t want to run out of beer on boxing day, do you? &#8212; but had a moment of eye-popping joy on tasting it. It reminded us, for some reason we can&#8217;t quite pin down, of those heady first days of exploring beer with a Michael Jackson book in our rucksack and <a href="http://hop-talk.com/2007/09/05/no-american-beer-in-london-but-lots-of-american-hops/">absolutely no idea what we were talking about</a>. (<em>Reader: Nothing&#8217;s changed, then?)</em> Could it be the upfront cascade hops, once the darlings of the brewing scene, now a bit old hat? At any rate, Marston&#8217;s are now somewhat redeemed in our eyes. Worst tasting notes ever, though: malt and hops, apparently.</p>
<p><strong>Thornbridge Jaipur (5.9%, cask)</strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>We approached this with some trepidation. Tandleman and others whose tastebuds we have no reason to doubt <a href="http://tandlemanbeerblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/briefly-in-glasgow.html">have not been impressed with it lately</a>. Fortunately, on this occasion, we found it as as glorious as ever. Compared to the three bottled IPAs, it seemed to have more toffee and certainly had a weightier body. A deep beer, yes, but also a very drinkable one, which slipped down and caused us (literally) to smack our lips.</p>
<p>Maybe, as we approach our fifth year of blogging about beer, it&#8217;s time to return to dig out Michael Jackson and get back to where we once belonged?</p>
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		<title>A virtual tasting for beer-beginners</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Boak</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Versión en español Delirium, over at “De Cervezas y otras cosas”, has set a very interesting topic for this month&#8217;s “round” (the Session for Spanish-speaking beer-bloggers). It was so thought-provoking that we thought we&#8217;d post it in English as well. The challenge was to come up with a “virtual” tasting session aimed at people who [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><a href="http://boakandbailey.com/?p=747"><em></em></a><em><a href="http://boakandbailey.com/?p=747">Versión en español</a> </em></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Delirium, over at “<a href="http://civada.blogspot.com/">De Cervezas y otras cosas</a>”, has set a very interesting topic for this month&#8217;s “round” (the Session for Spanish-speaking beer-bloggers).  It was so thought-provoking that we thought we&#8217;d post it in English as well.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The challenge was to come up with a “virtual” tasting session aimed at people who are not beer lovers.  We had to pick between five and eight beers that we would put forward, avoiding obscure microbreweries, and explain why we&#8217;d selected them.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">We like to <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/?p=520">beervangelise</a> from time to time, so it&#8217;s a question we&#8217;ve thought about a lot in the past.  After much pondering, we finally came up with some definite proposals, which we put forward here.<span id="more-737"></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">When deciding what to include, we wanted to present a wide range of styles, so that the beer novice would be suitably impressed by the variety available.  At the same time, the beers have to be accessible – so no Rauchbier or Flanders Reds&#8230; Also, in keeping with the spirit of the question, we&#8217;ve not specified any cask ale in this list, given its limited availability outside the UK.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">This list is not “our favourite beers”, although we&#8217;d happily drink all of them.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><strong>Hoegaarden, 5%</strong></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Many claim that this recipe has been dumbed down.  We still think it&#8217;s a fine drink, refreshing and spicy.  It&#8217;s on this list because we&#8217;ve successfully tried it on people who don&#8217;t really drink beer at all, and it&#8217;s generally gone down well because of its unusual flavour.  Of course, other wits would do the same job &#8212; one of our favourites is <a href="http://www.sintbernardus.be/en/beers.html#witbier">St Bernardus Wit</a> &#8212; but Hoegaarden is much more widely available, so better suits the specifications of this challenge.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><strong><a href="http://www.brooklynbrewery.com/beer/?id=lager">Brooklyn Lager</a>, 5.2%</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/boakbailey/Beer/photo#5190697148045228866"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/boakbailey/SAkPjf3ee0I/AAAAAAAAAig/NwC6RZQ4xvo/s400/DSCF3295.JPG" alt="" /></a></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><a href="http://boakandbailey.com/?p=480">We&#8217;ve posted of our love of this before.</a> This is one to give the “premium-lager” lovers to blow their minds.  Ale fans will also find plenty to appreciate with its full malt flavour and tangible hops.  It&#8217;s just a beautiful, well-crafted beer.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><strong><a href="http://www.staustellbrewery.co.uk/">St Austell</a>, “Proper Job” IPA, 5.5%</strong></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Lots of people think that British ale has to be brown and flat.  This beer is for them.  It&#8217;s a lovely pale brew that sparkles in the glass, and has a wonderful hop aroma and flavour, without being overly bitter.   The reason why we&#8217;ve selected this in particular from the many great British pale ales is that it seems to work really well in bottles.  We might select <a href="http://www.meantimebrewing.com/ipa.html">Meantime IPA</a> instead, as this seems to be exported more, but it&#8217;s a lot more “extreme” and difficult to digest.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><strong><a href="http://www.schneider-weisse.de/index.php?lang=en&amp;tpl=brauerei.spezialitaeten.original&amp;sid=$sid">Schneider Weisse</a> 5.4%</strong></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">We wanted to include a German Weissbier because it&#8217;s such an interesting and distinct style, and this is our favourite.  It&#8217;s not as sickly as many of the others, and the banana flavour is there without being overpowering.  We&#8217;ve found that a nice Weissbier often goes down well with lager-lovers – it&#8217;s cold and fizzy, after all.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><strong><a href="http://www.fullers.co.uk/rte.asp?id=63">Fuller&#8217;s London Porter</a>, 5.4%</strong></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">This is for the Guinness lovers, to show them what dark beer should be about.  It&#8217;s a splendid mix of chocolate, fruits, coffee-roastiness and liquorice.  It works pretty well in bottles, but is wonderful on cask.  In terms of richness and complexity, it beats many Belgian beers with twice the strength. Our decision to include this is possibly influenced by the fact that this is Boak&#8217;s favourite beer.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><strong>Triple Karmeliet, 8.4%</strong></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">We would have this one in reserve, to finish off the evening.  It has the seductive sweetness and comfort of  Leffe, but has more depth of flavour and is, frankly, a bit more credible.  It&#8217;s not the most complex Belgian beer, but it&#8217;s very consistent, and is a great introduction to strong Belgian beers.  Pour with a big head and take large gulps to appreciate the rounded, fruity flavours.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><strong>Runners-up</strong></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">We thought a lot about including a fruit beer.  We decided not to in the end, much as we like them, as we were assuming that the point of this exercise was to introduce a newcomer to good beer.  We&#8217;ve given non-beer drinkers Fruli before, and they enjoy it, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that they suddenly “convert” to liking beer.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">We had a similar debate with chocolate beers.  The problem here is that the chocolate beers we like are on the subtle side.  We once gave a non-beer-drinker some <a href="http://www.meantimebrewing.com/chocolate.html">Meantime Chocolate</a> to try, and they couldn&#8217;t taste the chocolate at all.  “Urgh – it tastes like beer!” they said.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><em>If you&#8217;ve read this far,you may be interested in reading about some real tastings – <a href="http://tandlemanbeerblog.blogspot.com/">Tandleman</a> introduced a number of GBBF visitors to <a href="http://tandlemanbeerblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/behind-scenes-at-gbbf.html">bottle-conditioned beers </a>(although he didn&#8217;t choose them), and Wilson at <a href="http://brewvana.wordpress.com/">Brewvana</a> organised a<a href="http://brewvana.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/6-women-6-decades-6-beers/"> tasting session for women</a>, with very interesting results.</em></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><strong><em>What would you choose?</em></strong></p>
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